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Aug 26, 2017 11:35 AM
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People have been bashing hentai-watchers all over the internet, calling it 'disgusting'. Though I find it quite amusing because the people who criticize hentai watch porn.

But a question sparked in my head: Is hentai anymore degrading than regular porn? Is there any difference? Is it more disgusting to masturbate to hentai simply because it's 'fake' than to masturbate to regular porn?

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Regular porn is staged anyway, so no.
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regular porn (most of it) is very fake too (damn beat by 30 secs...)
hentai is often over exaggerated but i dont think its anymore degrading because the 'extra fakeness' if you will of being drawn makes up for the weird shit that happens lol
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The entire discussion point of this thread hinges on the assumption that porn is "degrading".
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Meh.
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That's why you read( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) doujinshi, it stimulates your linguistic abilities.
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Wouldn't say either is degrading honestly
but hentai is better for me personally for fetish reasons
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Hentai is better than regular porn anyway.
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It depends what you defy degrading to be imo.

I don't watch a lot of porn overall so I don't really know the boundaries that people go to. That said, I'm assuming hentai would be more degrading because there are no limits to what can be "made" so anything could be presented.

We are only human so in the aspect of regular porn we would have our own limit set to we can do. It's kinda hard talking about it specifically since it depends between each person what their definition of degradation would be/portray to.
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NihilLoli_Gasan said:
The entire discussion point of this thread hinges on the assumption that porn is "degrading".

i was just basing it off of context.
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Ikaros_42oh said:
regular porn (most of it) is very fake too (damn beat by 30 secs...)
hentai is often over exaggerated but i dont think its anymore degrading because the 'extra fakeness' if you will of being drawn makes up for the weird shit that happens lol

but one's animated and one's real. therefore the animated one is more degrading
and wut do you mean fake. :o
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Absolutely not. The conditions of the hardcore porn industry are pretty bad and degrading/hurting actual women instead of drawings.
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AniJan said:
Ikaros_42oh said:
regular porn (most of it) is very fake too (damn beat by 30 secs...)
hentai is often over exaggerated but i dont think its anymore degrading because the 'extra fakeness' if you will of being drawn makes up for the weird shit that happens lol

but one's animated and one's real. therefore the animated one is more degrading
and wut do you mean fake. :o
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Porn cliches and fake tits/cum and shit... you can get some unrealistic expectations from porn almost because its easier to trick your mind into thinking thats what happens (not saying the fuckin aint real but the chances of you doin that, ha) whereas hentai its so obviously fake and animated/far away from reality (some of the stories can be realistic but unless you have animevision its never ever happening lol)....
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It's kinda the same as regular porn in that you really don't wanna talk about what your watching in normal irl conversations.

I dunno if the "fake" thing really ties into it being degrading. Normal porn isn't exactly the pinnacle of realism.
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Ntr/lolis/tentacle/rape/mind control ....

i only fap to vanilla so i always check the tags before watching any hentai
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It's all just porn in the end, isn't it?
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Aug 26, 2017 11:58 AM

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Anymore degrading than regular porn is the reason why i watch/read hentai. Porn is too "soft".
Aug 26, 2017 12:05 PM

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Well, I don't watch porn because it has real people in it. I stopped watching it many years ago.
Hentai and doujin are better imo. Especially doujins.

Which is more degrading though? Regular Porn, definitely
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It's almost like the reason why hentai may seem degradating is because it's known to attract only anime-obsessed weirdos and weeaboos meanwhile real porn features real people and it's consumed by something like 90% of the male and female population.

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The whole point of porn is sexual objectification by default
So all porn is degrading
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I can't even get horny over porn movies over how much fake they are.
That being said, hentai atleast has internal verisimilitude, not to mention it is more creative and less repetitive.

And let's not forget that the mainstream porn industry is a pu$$& if the subject is breaking taboos, how do they expect i get excited over "step-mothers, step-daughters, yada yada", if you're willing to take a step, why not go all-in?

Seriously, i prefer watching a highly expressive 2d adult content than some cheaply-made bad plot and acting 3d porn.
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Porn is literal cuckoldry because you're literally watching someone else fuck someone you're attracted to. At least hentai isn't real.

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real porn features real people and it's consumed by something like 90% of the male and female population.

That's not a good thing at all, and it's not "normal" either. This is probably why things like MGTOW and modern 3rd-wave feminism exist is because of how popular porn is nowadays and how almost everything the media pushes is overtly sexual in some way. Those who control the media control everyone and the perfect way to maintain this is causing men and women to hate each other; and they accomplish this by promoting porn and sexual promiscuity among the youth.

STOP WATCHING PORN!

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It's almost like the reason why hentai may seem degradating is because it's known to attract only anime-obsessed weirdos and weeaboos meanwhile real porn features real people and it's consumed by something like 90% of the male and female population.





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Both hentai and real porn are unrealistic.
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They are the same .. but is there hentai haters on the internet ? Do you have some screenshots or links ?


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Depends on your definition of "degrading."

But I couldn't care less if it's more degrading by the 1000th power, no one will ever get me to not watch my sick and twisted hentai and doujin.
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yes it is degrading to anime watchers, people like us who go to anime for the appreciation of art and story not disgust.
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Aug 26, 2017 1:57 PM
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STOP WATCHING PORN!





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if anime was hentai,harem and ecchi I would quit it right now, lord help me I HATE THOSE GENRES SO MUCH.
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They are both degrading. In both you're normally objectifying one of the subjects, normally the women.

The thing is, you watch what you like and don't give a fuck about what people think ;) It's none of their business
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I swear there's been debates on here before about how being attracted to cartoon characters might be some kind of condition.


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Aug 26, 2017 2:05 PM

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They are both degrading. In both you're normally objectifying one of the subjects, normally the women.

The thing is, you watch what you like and don't give a fuck about what people think ;) It's none of their business


"objectification" is BS.

You can only objectivy individuals, not concepts, if you're "objectifying the concept of a woman"... who cares?
In porn movies' case, no one if actually being objectified, they are consensual adults that signed contracts out of their free will while offering their services.
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It's not like I'll die if they criticize me or anything. Although, it is disgusting to those who don't know it, I mean who'd even want to appreciate something they don't know?


It's the same as those who worship hentai, which they find regular porn as disgusting piece of shit... Ohh well, at least that's how I see it.
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Porn is way too fake for me. And it's the main reason why I don't watch porn. It's too straight forward, which is making it boring as fuck.
Hentai makers are trying to bite it from the other side. Rich narration, different settings, story (even if the story is surrealistic and not logical at all) etc are forcing you to use your imagination. This is way more arousing than watching porn actors which is making totally faked porn scenes.
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thewiru said:
Nocturn3 said:
They are both degrading. In both you're normally objectifying one of the subjects, normally the women.

The thing is, you watch what you like and don't give a fuck about what people think ;) It's none of their business


"objectification" is BS.

You can only objectivy individuals, not concepts, if you're "objectifying the concept of a woman"... who cares?
In porn movies' case, no one if actually being objectified, they are consensual adults that signed contracts out of their free will while offering their services.


The act itself is an objectification of the women/man as a source of pleasure. Those things are studied, you know?!

I'm not saying it's right or wrong, it's not up to me to judge it and I couldn't care less about it. The one of objectifies is the viewer not the parties involved on making the movie.
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Nocturn3 said:

The act itself is an objectification of the women/man as a source of pleasure. Those things are studied, you know?!


Yeah man, astrology is also studied.
And yes, people intereact with other people in order to achieve happiness, pleasure may be one of the means, i don't see anything weird or bad in that.


I'm not saying it's right or wrong, it's not up to me to judge it and I couldn't care less about it. The one of objectifies is the viewer not the parties involved on making the movie.


What the...

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Porn is more degrading than hentai if you look into it far enough.


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thewiru said:
Nocturn3 said:

The act itself is an objectification of the women/man as a source of pleasure. Those things are studied, you know?!


Yeah man, astrology is also studied.
And yes, people intereact with other people in order to achieve happiness, pleasure may be one of the means, i don't see anything weird or bad in that.


I'm not saying it's right or wrong, it's not up to me to judge it and I couldn't care less about it. The one of objectifies is the viewer not the parties involved on making the movie.


What the...



Don't make stupid comparison to try to prove a point, it just makes you look stupid.

And I didn't say it is good or bad. I said the exact opposite.

The objectification is what you "learn" by viewing it. Is a mental process. You see a women/men being treated that way and you learn to objectify her/him as a tool. Just read a bit about it...
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there are boner killing hentai out there for sure if thats what it means to be degrading thats why i usually look for vanilla hentai
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Disgusting and degrading are two different terms, so the question you're asking in the title and the question you're asking in your post are two different things.

Hentai can go far beyond anything porn can do, so it can easily go past porn's level of "disgusting" but only with certain fetishes. Hentai doesn't need to obey the laws of physics and clearly doesn't even try to, but you cannot change the fact that it is just a animation, a cartoon. Seeing something shocking in a animation will have less of an impact than seeing a live version of it. For example, gore in a cartoon versus live action gore. Seeing guts and body entrails is often more disgusting in real life than seeing some cartoon animation of it. So if the hentai is doing things that cannot happen in real life and has no comparison when it comes to porn, hentai can easily disgust you more as it has no comparisons and becomes your base line standard for disgusting but in comparison to activities than can be done in both that you consider disgusting, then porn will most likely have hentai beat.

Degrading is a different matter. If we're talking live action porn adaptions of something hentai, which yes there are, then that's obviously a degrade. You can't get a old lady to play a high school school girl. Now if you're talking degrading women, then rape hentai probably has porn beat. This is because most hentai characters have personality and a mental state. Porn doesn't touch on that, they're usually just a fuck show. This is important because hentai loves to break the will of female characters to show how easy it is to convert them into nymphos. You don't see that kind of stuff in regular porn. Though this is only if you're comparing rape hentai, while it is a common theme in hentai, it isn't the only theme.

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I wouldn't say that porn/hentai is " degrading by itself.

The major difference that I've found is that a lot of hentai is Loli hentai.

Legal porn does not have prepubescent girls in it. When it does have a younger looking girl, it's a 18+ petite girl that only looks young.

Legal hentai does have prepubescent girls. They even tell you their age. Now, I understand the 'its artistic expression' argument, I really do. It's still disgusting though. Now matter how you look at it..

It's sick to imagine, draw, or film 9 or 10 year old girls having sex.
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Nocturn3 said:

Don't make stupid comparison to try to prove a point, it just makes you look stupid.

And I didn't say it is good or bad. I said the exact opposite.

The objectification is what you "learn" by viewing it. Is a mental process. You see a women/men being treated that way and you learn to objectify her/him as a tool. Just read a bit about it...


"Don't make stupid comparison to try to prove a point, it just makes you look stupid."
It is not stupid, your argument was that "It is studied, therefore it is real and serious stuff" and i made you play yourselrf.

"And I didn't say it is good or bad. I said the exact opposite. "
That phrase doesn't make sense, it's like saying "I didn't say that it had collours or that it didn't have collours. I said the exact opposite".

"The objectification is what you "learn" by viewing it"
Nope, you just invented that definition.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/objectification

"You see a women/men being treated that way and you learn to objectify her/him as a tool. Just read a bit about it..."

No you don't, WTH.
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thewiru said:
Nocturn3 said:

Don't make stupid comparison to try to prove a point, it just makes you look stupid.

And I didn't say it is good or bad. I said the exact opposite.

The objectification is what you "learn" by viewing it. Is a mental process. You see a women/men being treated that way and you learn to objectify her/him as a tool. Just read a bit about it...


"Don't make stupid comparison to try to prove a point, it just makes you look stupid."
It is not stupid, your argument was that "It is studied, therefore it is real and serious stuff" and i made you play yourselrf.

"And I didn't say it is good or bad. I said the exact opposite. "
That phrase doesn't make sense, it's like saying "I didn't say that it had collours or that it didn't have collours. I said the exact opposite".

"The objectification is what you "learn" by viewing it"
Nope, you just invented that definition.
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/objectification

"You see a women/men being treated that way and you learn to objectify her/him as a tool. Just read a bit about it..."

No you don't, WTH.
I won't kill a dog just because i watched JoJo. People are not that retarded.



To begin with, comparing Astrology with Psychology is stupid. One is a science the other isn't.

What I said was: "I'm not saying it's right or wrong, it's not up to me to judge it and I couldn't care less about it".

You objectify the person, that's a process not a definition idiot, so don't try to act smart by copy pasting a definition. I didn't say what the definition was, I said that's a way you can start objectifying people.

You can't say people are not that retarded, because some are. Especially at a young age they are highly influenceable.

So go read a bit about the research that has been done on the topic and stop being a idiot ^^ You won't be successful by trying to manipulate what I say ^^

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"To begin with, comparing Astrology with Psychology is stupid. One is a science the other isn't. "

A HUGE part of the academy does not agree with that.

"You objectify the person, that's a process not a definition idiot, so don't try to act smart by copy pasting a definition. I didn't say what the definition was, I said that's a way you can start objectifying people."

Which made no sense and had nothing to backup.
Also, the phrase "Is a process, not a definition" makes no sense.

"You can't say people are not that retarded, because some are. Especially at a young age they are highly influenceable. "

Maybe that's because porn is ADULT ONLY and not for kids, don't you think?
Some people use bricks to throw at people, should we ban bricks?

"So go read a bit about the research that has been done on the topic and stop being a idiot ^^ You won't be successful by trying to manipulate what I say ^^"

I studied, that's how i proved every point of yours wrong until now.


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As a vivid watcher of both Hentai Anime and 'real' Porn, as well as a vivid reader of Hentai Manga (also know as 'Doujinshi') there are a few things I'd like to say about this topic.

First of all, almost all Hentai are fucking disgusting and not really worth the watch (at least for me that is).

Real Porn on the other hand is usually not that better, Especially the one coming from Japanese sex-actresses. It can however be better than Hentai, though as for everything here, it all depends what exactly you are comparing. There should be some rather good Hentai out there, as well as good Porn.

Even Doujinshi (and especially most of those which are on MyAnimeList) are usually fucking disgusting.

There are different ways how to look at it though. For once, it is actually better to watch Hentai instead of porn, as that way less women will have to get forced to do those sex scenes, also the number of prostitutes of under-aged women could decline (at least that is what I think about that matter, though as I'm gonna say it in the next paragraph, it all depends on what you are talking about).

In the end it all depends on ones preferences and what they prefer. If one likes to fap to 2d, let him fap to 2d, if one however prefers to fap to 3d, fine!

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"To begin with, comparing Astrology with Psychology is stupid. One is a science the other isn't. "

A HUGE part of the academy does not agree with that.

"You objectify the person, that's a process not a definition idiot, so don't try to act smart by copy pasting a definition. I didn't say what the definition was, I said that's a way you can start objectifying people."

Which made no sense and had nothing to backup.
Also, the phrase "Is a process, not a definition" makes no sense.

"You can't say people are not that retarded, because some are. Especially at a young age they are highly influenceable. "

Maybe that's because porn is ADULT ONLY and not for kids, don't you think?
Some people use bricks to throw at people, should we ban bricks?

"So go read a bit about the research that has been done on the topic and stop being a idiot ^^ You won't be successful by trying to manipulate what I say ^^"

I studied, that's how i proved every point of yours wrong until now.




Yes, because age restriction always stop people from watching porn ahahah. What a joke.

Proved wrong?! Sure.... Believe that if it makes you happy. Not even knowing the difference between a definition and how you gain a habit (the process.

Don't bother replying.
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Nope. Females create them too .they both are made by anyone who likes sex.
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We're talking about naked anime girls being railed in the ass so, no.
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